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Wow! Super indepth!!! Thank you for all your research and efforts and for sharing it. Your opening question was an eye catcher for sure. And I understand the way in which you mean it. The assumption that we all seem to share is that all the things you mention food, water, shelter is what we need to exist and that we must somehow obtain these things through our own efforts ( or the efforts of others ) by whatever means. Yes? However, and this took me awhile to get to but being as I just came from Divine Liturgy for The Feast of the Transfiguration, and if I take the time to reflect on things from a spiritual point of view which unfortunately I don’t do enough but just sitting in the sun drinking my coffee peacefully so it occurred to me that no actually those things are not in fact the essence of our existence and those things in fact we do not have to obtain to exist. I think if you really do back in history that is the initial lie we accepted, or at least a form of that type of thinking……. I could go on but there are so many threads to this to explore and it will take me awhile to work it out for myself and don’t know if I can explain it all logically but you can sort or see what I’m getting at right? I mean why do we exist? Who called us into existence? Honestly, I think all these “ physical means of existence” are important clearly needful but not the most necessary …

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I’m afraid I disagree with you. Water is not “free” for the deer. It has to make the effort to find the river or lake. If it can’t or won’t make the effort, it dies of thirst. Payment is an exchange of effort. I “pay” you by finding the river. You “pay” me by fashioning a scoop from leaves and bark so we can bring the water back to our young.

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